Adams and Liamgate

These are posts from me onto the BBC's Takback message forum.

Observe the lies doggy time lines and insincerity for Gerry Adams.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8423501.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8420275.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8634342.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8559499.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8549939.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8424502.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8548674.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8478237.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8470988.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8471174.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8469293.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8463586.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8463724.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8461792.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8462642.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8460256.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8458972.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8451404.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8429389.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8431807.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8429389.stm




This story seems to get more and more bizarre; it’s quite obvious that Liam Adams was extensively involved with Sinn Fein, in both west Belfast and county Louth.
This after Gerry knew of the allegations against Liam Adams and their alleged estrangement and his alleged expulsion form Sinn Fein.

Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein in subsequent interviews from the initial UTV interview have changed their stories surrounding Liam’s involvement with Sinn Fein and at what level that involvement took place.

Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein have tried to dilute the involvement of Liam Adams in Sinn Fein, and in attempt after attempt they have tried to cover up the fact that Liam Adams, was permitted to continue in a senior roll in Sinn Fein.

It is inconceivable that Gerry would not have known of Liam’s involvement in the party, as the position he held in Louth was a leadership appointee. Gerry and Liam were canvassing in Louth, Liam and Martin McGuinness we seen opening the new Sinn Fein Louth offices. And as for being a chairman of a local association in Gerry’s heartland of west Belfast, it’s inconceivable that this appointment was not known to Gerry.

Gerry said he was estranged form Liam, yet Gerry was at Liam’s second wedding in Donegal along with several high profile Sinn Fein members, and they were seen smiling while getting their photograph taken with other guest’s, this is a very strange estrangement???

Gerry needs to come clean on Liam’s involvement with Sinn Fein and any contact Liam, had with children when he was involved with Sinn Fein in west Belfast and Louth, and when he worked as a community worker in west Belfast and Louth. Why did Gerry at that time when he was in contact with Liam, and he knew of his whereabouts not inform the local police or the social services of the allegations against Liam.

You can hear Mary Lou’s attempt to defend Sinn Fein’s and Gerry’s position. Then you can hear Suzanne Breen; take to peaces Gerry’s and Sinn Fein’s attempted cover up and spin. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00ptn1l
The Sunday Tribune will be a great read on tomorrow.

I see that Ian Paisley junior, has tabled questions on Gerry’s involvement in the Liamgate cover up, this after Gerry said if there are questions to be ask, ask them.
I can almost hear the collective hysteria of Sinn Fein that someone has dared to asked the questions of Gerry.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/sinn-fein-president-gerry-adams-hits-out-at-paisley-claims-14636856.html

Now for the big question, what parent in their right mind would vote for a party leader or a party that is putting so much effort into protecting a paedophile, and is putting the party before the victim or protecting innocent children?


More shifting stories on the Liam Adams departure form Sinn Fein, in the latest BBC NI news Gerry said that he got Liam to leave Sinn Fein. However, that is a shift form his first statement when he said, when I found out Liam was in the party he got Liam thrown out of Sinn Fein.

So Gerry what is it, did he go or was he pushed.

Another interesting aspect to this is, if Gerry got Liam to leave there must have been some type of discussion as to why he was being asked to leave Sinn Fein. During that conversation, we can only assume that Gerry told Liam that it was because he believed what Liam's daughter had told him about the sexual abuse allegations.

Why then did Liam feel the time was right to join Sinn Fein again in Gerry's west Belfast constituency???

Ranger, the other inconsistency in the statement you quote is that if Gerry didn’t tell people “why”, it implies that he told them something. Therefore Gerry is saying that he told people to get liam dumped out so his statement that he did it himself is a complete contradiction

That is a bit disingenuous as the BBC broke the Robinson storey, and they have given many minuets of air time to the Robinson's predicament, unlike that of the other leader Adams.

If the allegations of lying and cover-up for a paedophile were laid at any other leader than Adams, the media reaction would be like that of the Robinson's.

In every interview Gerry has changed the events, facts and timelines. It is not as if he did not have time to get the facts or time lines of what Liam was up to and where.
As the UTV programme first contacted Gerry Adams at the end of the summer of 2009 for an interview, and it was only a few day’s before broadcasting that he finally gave that interview. So if Gerry can't get his story straight and every week the story changes what are we to think, the only conclusion must be that there is something to hide and a cover-up has been set in place to protect Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein.


The question now that needs to be asked, what justice can an ordinary nationalist & republican get if the victim in this case, the nice of Sinn Fein/IRA president and MP for West Belfast, is being obstructed and de-victimized by Sinn Fein/IRA?

Nationalists & republicans need to remember Sinn Fein/IRA, have form in this type of activity. The recent murders and cover up’s involving Robert McCartney and Paul Quinn, the slow release of information to the families of the disappeared and the character assassination of the disappeared, and the character assassination of Robert McCartney’s sisters and the family of Paul Quinn. Do not bode well for ordinary nationalists & republicans getting Sinn Fein/IRA justice and fairness, even in a paedophile case!!!

Gerry Adams is a serial denier. Adams the man who all through his life has denied being in the IRA, and has denied his full roll in several infamous incidents during the so called troubles, he even denied knowing if he was abused? So Adams, form in this issue is hardly unfamiliar to him.
Here I believe is the issue that goes to the heart of the matter an issue that nationalists & republicans are in complete denial about. Adams has blatantly told lies and half truths over many years. He is a master in the tactics of deflection, spin and victim-hood, all the tactics he has used in this case.

The issue of the blatant lies that Adams is coming out with are of concern for the nationalist & republican voters. They need to re-examine and revaluate what type of people and party they want to represent them.

The ordinary nationalist & republican needs to get the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, collective monkey off their backs, and see Adams and Sinn Fein/IRA for what they really are. Until ordinary nationalists & republicans, realize that Adams and Sinn Fein/IRA have a vested interest in keeping their communities and electorate subjugated then the cycle of some old, same old in nationalist & republican areas will continue forever.

I’m sure there are more of these cases, and at some stage they will be forced out, to affect the nationalist & republican communities. Remember Robert McCartney and Paul Quinn, if Sinn Fein/IRA can clean up and cover up murders, there is nothing they won’t stoop too, to cover up for the party’s apparatchiks or other IRA members in a sexual abuse allegation against ordinary nationalist & republican people!!!

To quote Thomas Jefferson: “When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Change the government, to Sinn Fein and this seems to sum up everything in nationalist & republican communities!!!

More shifting stories on the Liam Adams departure form Sinn Fein, in the latest BBC NI news Gerry said that he got Liam to leave Sinn Fein.

However, that is a shift form his first statement when he said, he moved immediately to get him dumped out of Sinn Fein without telling people why, he went on to say he moved very, very quickly.

So Gerry what is it, did he go or was he pushed.

Another interesting aspect to this is, if Gerry got Liam to leave there must have been some type of conversation as to why he was being asked to leave Sinn Fein. During that conversation, we can only assume that Gerry told Liam that it was because he believed what Liam’s daughter had told him about the sexual abuse allegations.

Why then did Liam feel the time was right to rejoin Sinn Fein again in Gerry’s own west Belfast constituency???