Saturday, July 20, 2013
psni child informers
I would like to make my community aware of an official psni policing policy below.
It is an official operational policing policy endorsed by Judith Gillespie of the psni and no doubt by the pompous republican biased Will Kerr and the equally pompous republican biased Matt Baggott.
"In September 2006 it was confirmed that Assistant Chief Constable Judith Gillespie approved the PSNI policy of using children as informants including in exceptional circumstances to inform on their own family but not their parents. The document added safeguards included having a parent or "appropriate adult" present at meetings between juveniles and their handler. It also stressed a child's welfare should be paramount when considering the controversial tactics and required that any risk had been properly explained to them and a risk assessment completed".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_Service_of_Northern_Ireland
I would like to know if the psni let the community groupings they are meeting, in Matt Baggotts community policing boards, that they are grooming or operating child informers in their area?
I find it interesting that Will Kerr has been giving a lot of his media time to the fact that children are involved in street disturbances. However I find it equally interesting to note that he has no problem in grooming and using children as street informers.
Maybe he can tell us what is the difference in him and the psni grooming and using children, and the children getting themselves involved in disturbances. I see it as the most obvious case of hypocrisy you will ever see.
And maybe the psni can tell us who or what is an "appropriate adult" when questioning child informers??? Is the use of children as informers a way of using the children to leaver influence on the child's parents or guardian to become informers???
I put it to will Kerr that the throwing stones is wrong, however the psni grooming and using children as informers is abhorrent.
The grooming and use of child informers by the psni are the type of activities that Human Rights groups, NGO's and democratic governments would criticize despot regimes off. The psni grooming running child informers is reminiscent of the Stasi in communist east Germany and despot fundamentalist regimes of Africa and the middle and far east. Not a so called democratic society.
The psni have no problems or issues with grooming and using our children as informers. But have they really considered the coast to the children their parents or relatives and community relations if the children are found to be informers.
They are obviously not concerned for the children's welfare by putting them in the front line of intelligence gathering.
The reason for this post is that I have been made aware of the increasing reports of the rising numbers of our children being stopped by the psni.
If any of our children or young people are being groomed as informers by the psni this is a very serious matter and needs to be taken to the highest levels of national government.
The next question I have are the psni stopping these children lawfully. Or are they putting undue pressure, "grooming" the children they stop in an attempt to recruit more of our children into their informer and intelligence gathering rings???
It surely can't be coincidental that the psni are stopping more and more of our children, the psni officers on the ground are not doing these things in isolation, they have obviously been ordered by the psni hierarchy to go out and intimidate our children by stopping and interrogating them and then groom them for their informer rings. We need to know if out children and young people are being pressured, groomed and recruited as psni informers???
Not that when questioned by our community that we would get an honest or straight answer from the psni. The psni are more into spin and the dark arts of demonizing our community, grooming and running child informers than dispensing policing evenhandedly.
Our politicians need to ask some serious questions of Baggott, Kerr and Gillespie and tell them they need to stop intimidating and grooming the children of our community. If they have evidence of wrong doing then arrest them, but the psni need to stop the blunt policy of stopping children and young people as it is wrecking what little community relations there are left. And added to this the possibility of the psni grooming and recruiting children as informers with their increasing non accountable psni stops.
If as we are being told by the establishment, that we are becoming a normal society, why is there a need for child to used by the psni as an informer???
It must surely be a breach of the child's Human Rights to be used as a psni informer, hardly community or human rights based policing that Baggott, Kerr and Gillespie keep telling us.
It is an official operational policing policy endorsed by Judith Gillespie of the psni and no doubt by the pompous republican biased Will Kerr and the equally pompous republican biased Matt Baggott.
"In September 2006 it was confirmed that Assistant Chief Constable Judith Gillespie approved the PSNI policy of using children as informants including in exceptional circumstances to inform on their own family but not their parents. The document added safeguards included having a parent or "appropriate adult" present at meetings between juveniles and their handler. It also stressed a child's welfare should be paramount when considering the controversial tactics and required that any risk had been properly explained to them and a risk assessment completed".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_Service_of_Northern_Ireland
I would like to know if the psni let the community groupings they are meeting, in Matt Baggotts community policing boards, that they are grooming or operating child informers in their area?
I find it interesting that Will Kerr has been giving a lot of his media time to the fact that children are involved in street disturbances. However I find it equally interesting to note that he has no problem in grooming and using children as street informers.
Maybe he can tell us what is the difference in him and the psni grooming and using children, and the children getting themselves involved in disturbances. I see it as the most obvious case of hypocrisy you will ever see.
And maybe the psni can tell us who or what is an "appropriate adult" when questioning child informers??? Is the use of children as informers a way of using the children to leaver influence on the child's parents or guardian to become informers???
I put it to will Kerr that the throwing stones is wrong, however the psni grooming and using children as informers is abhorrent.
The grooming and use of child informers by the psni are the type of activities that Human Rights groups, NGO's and democratic governments would criticize despot regimes off. The psni grooming running child informers is reminiscent of the Stasi in communist east Germany and despot fundamentalist regimes of Africa and the middle and far east. Not a so called democratic society.
The psni have no problems or issues with grooming and using our children as informers. But have they really considered the coast to the children their parents or relatives and community relations if the children are found to be informers.
They are obviously not concerned for the children's welfare by putting them in the front line of intelligence gathering.
The reason for this post is that I have been made aware of the increasing reports of the rising numbers of our children being stopped by the psni.
If any of our children or young people are being groomed as informers by the psni this is a very serious matter and needs to be taken to the highest levels of national government.
The next question I have are the psni stopping these children lawfully. Or are they putting undue pressure, "grooming" the children they stop in an attempt to recruit more of our children into their informer and intelligence gathering rings???
It surely can't be coincidental that the psni are stopping more and more of our children, the psni officers on the ground are not doing these things in isolation, they have obviously been ordered by the psni hierarchy to go out and intimidate our children by stopping and interrogating them and then groom them for their informer rings. We need to know if out children and young people are being pressured, groomed and recruited as psni informers???
Not that when questioned by our community that we would get an honest or straight answer from the psni. The psni are more into spin and the dark arts of demonizing our community, grooming and running child informers than dispensing policing evenhandedly.
Our politicians need to ask some serious questions of Baggott, Kerr and Gillespie and tell them they need to stop intimidating and grooming the children of our community. If they have evidence of wrong doing then arrest them, but the psni need to stop the blunt policy of stopping children and young people as it is wrecking what little community relations there are left. And added to this the possibility of the psni grooming and recruiting children as informers with their increasing non accountable psni stops.
If as we are being told by the establishment, that we are becoming a normal society, why is there a need for child to used by the psni as an informer???
It must surely be a breach of the child's Human Rights to be used as a psni informer, hardly community or human rights based policing that Baggott, Kerr and Gillespie keep telling us.
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